Backhouse/Wynter/Gratze

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John Winter (b. 1618, d. 1645), son of William > John Winter (d.1650) > John Winter (d. 1685) > son married the niece of the Duke of Ormond and styled himself Count de l'Epée > John de l'Epée Winter (1751-1818) = Elizabeth Townley >:

Name: John Wintor
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 May 1771
Event Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Event Place (Original): St. James, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Townly
Spouse's Gender: Female

Reference ID: 2:1N7G018
GS Film Number: 1596536
Digital Folder Number: 007567351
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17286-5
System Origin: VR
Record Number: 1014390

Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFRX-VMC : 13 March 2020), Mary Townly in entry for John Wintor, 1771.

See also Thesis p159
Author: Hankins, Kenneth Miles Wardle
Title: 'The contention of power' : the role of the Jesuits in the Catholic life of Bristol, 1700-
1830.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=24&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiU_Zmm-NjnAhVYRxUIHSohCDE4FBAWMAN6BAgCEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearch-information.bristol.ac.uk%2Ffiles%2F34485968%2F246279.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0eNRNCNftPvUoAGSm8U0kC

As an example of the effect this protracted dispute had on the lives of
individual Catholics we may consider the case of John Winter, a comb-maker of
Castle Street, who had contributed to the new chapel and had subscribed to letters of
protest to Bishop Walmesley about Plowden's ministry. Winter, a convert and a
married man with eight children, alleged he was debarred the practice of the Catholic
religion `through the abusive and insulting behaviour of Robert Plowden'. After he
and his wife had signed one of the petitions to Bishop Walmesley, his wife had
wished to make her confession ('go to her duty') the following Easter, and suspecting
Plowden's feelings towards her had written him a submissive letter requesting him to
hear her confession. In his reply Plowden asked what law obliged him to sit down
and hear the confession of those who were `teeming with vengeance' against him. 43
Winter himself then wrote to Plowden enquiring if he also was included in the
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number of those forbidden the sacrament for signing a petition which Mr Fargus, the
warden, had sent to the bishop. Plowden replied (according to Winter's wife) that
he would not administer the sacrament to him if he was on his dying bed - until he
had first paid him eight hundred pounds, Plowden's argument being that, since the
congregation were unable to use the new chapel because the wardens refused to allow
its completion, the money thus far spent on it (over £700) should be refunded. "
The day before the chapel opened Winter asked Plowden to let him have seven
places at the same price he understood others were paying for their seats. But, he
asserted, Plowden would not let him have a place for less than four shillings and
sixpence a quarter for each sitting, which meant, he claimed, that he would be paying
almost twice as much as others for the same number of places. He then heard from
another source that Plowden was prepared to lower his prices if he would agree to
have his name marked `poor' on his books. His catalogue of complaints not ended,
Winter recalled how one day the priest called at his house to tell him that if any
members of his family sat on any of the seats in the chapel, whether by invitation of
the owner or even if the seat was unoccupied, he would publicly expose them. Thus
forbidden a place to sit unless he complied with Plowden's exorbitant demands (so
he informed the bishop), and having no other place to go nearer than Bath, which
must be attended with more expense than he could afford, he had resolved to spend
the sabbath at home and rest his `prospects of eternity on an allowing God'. 47

See also Report of Charities
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jgAMAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=john%20winter&f=false

John Winter, of the city of Bristol, comb-maker, holds a house in Tower-lane, by lease dated 26th August, 1807, for 99 years; if John Winter, Jun., aged 37 years ; Richard Winter, aged 20 years, both sons of the lessee ; and Henry Winter, aged 13 years, son of said John Winter,jun.,
shall so long live; chief rent per annum ......................1 11 6

Assume refers in 1807 to John Winter (1751-1818); so John Winter Jun is John B Winter (1772-1830. ie roughly 37 yrs old in 1807), Richard Paul (1787-1803, so 20 in 1807), and Henry Stephen Winter (~1800-1850, so not sure about dates)

 

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Dr Walter Essex Wynter of Bartholomew Manor, Newbury wrote on 29.5.1942 that the first John Winter at the head of his family tree (b. 1750, d. 1818) who appeared in the Bristol Parliamentary voting list in 1792, was a manufacturer of high decorative combs in the Empire period and no doubt transferred from Madrid where he was brought up.

The surname Winter seems to have existed in Spain, settled by Flemings who came with Philip "le Bel" of Hapsburg, Duke of Burgundy (king of Spain by right of his wife Juana "la Loca") and also during later reigns because the Spanish Hapsburg inherited the Netherlands. On 4.2.1562 Arnold Berde alias Wynter, a Spanish subject, paid customs of 6s.8d as an alien in England. (Calendar Patent Rolls, Elizabeth 1560-1563).

Dr. Winter thought his branch of the family settled in Armagh either in Elizabethan or Cromwellian times and was associated with the Duke of Ormond in the Pretender's risings in 1715 or 1745.

There was a marriage of John Delap and Anne Winter at Richmond Hill, Ballyhagen, Armagh on 8.5.1745 ("Irish & Scotch Irish Ancestral Research"- Margaret Dickson Falley, FSG America from records of French Huguenot churches in Ireland & "The French Settlement at Youghal, Co. Cork" - Rev. Sam. Hayman) and there is a monument to John Delap Halliday in Halesowen, Worcestershire so perhaps the Delappes or de l'Epées were Walloons originally from Flanders where the surname L'Epée survives.

The Huguenot family of Delappe went to Youghal in Ireland (Huguenot Records, Guildhall library) where they they became one of the principal families, recorded in the Irish church and their ranks in military records (1689-91). They thought highly of one of the Dukes of Ormond (Butler) who helped them.

An old Miss Winter from Armagh told Dr Winter's aunt Emily Webb (then a child a 100 years ago) never to forget that she was a Butler.

THE Partnership between John Winter the Elder, John Winter the Younger, and Thomas Winter, of the City of Bristol, Comb-Makers and Lanthorn Horn Manufacturers, under the Firm of John Winter and Sons, was by mutual Consent dissolved the 15th of Febmary 1800, as far as relates to John Winter the Younger. All Persons indebted to the said Concern are to pay the same to John
Winter the Elder : and all Persons who have any Demands on them are to apply for Payment as above.
John Winter, senior.
John Winter, junior.
Thomas Winter.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=29&ved=2ahUKEwiGsMze_7foAhXRQEEAHbEdDL44FBAWMAh6BAgGEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegazette.co.uk%2FLondon%2Fissue%2F15235%2Fpage%2F219%2Fdata.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3p5qyqWMeG7XNIUR2nFdhY

 

Bristol Charities report 1828 page 141

Alderman Robert Kitchen's Charities
Listed under rentals
John Winter, of the city of Bristol, comb-maker, holds a house in Towerlane, by lease dated 26th August, 1807, for 99 years; if John Winter, jun., aged 37 years; Richard Winter, aged 20 years, both sons of the lessee; and Henry Winter, son of said John Winter, jun., shall so long live; chief rent per annum 1 11 6

Name: John Winter
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 01 May 1818
Burial Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Age: 67
Birth Date: 1751

Reference ID: yr 1813-1855 p 52
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: V00059-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1596647

Citing this Record
"England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC71-RJ3 : 10 February 2018), John Winter, burial 01 May 1818; citing Bristol, Gloucestershire, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,596,647.

"England, Bristol, Non-Conformist Church Records, 1777-1936," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2Z7-NBCN : 11 March 2018), Winter, 24 Apr 1818; citing Burial, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom, Bristol City Archives, England; FHL microfilm 004319530.

Executor's statement
Dated 1882, death in 1818. Refers to costs "relative to ... funds prior to discovery of surviving executor of J Townley, the surviving executor of the late J Winter".
Assume J Townley was relative of wife of John Winter.
Statement shows split of estate among those five children of John Winter with surviving offspring.
Fifth shares to families of John Winter Junr (1772-1830), Thomas Winter (1776-1887?), Betty Lankester (1773-1833), William Winter (1778-?), and Andrew Winter (1781-1834).
John Winter Junr share to Eliza Bramhall (Admin: Emily Webb), Henry Stephen Winter (Exec: Elizabeth Eagland), Edmund Wynter (Admin: Mary Betty Winter), and Wm Winter (Admin: Mrs Wynter)

Estate value (that part on statement) = £862.
In current terms about £100,000
https://www.officialdata.org/uk/inflation/1882?amount=862