Occupation
Gramps ID | E0565 |
Date | 1788 |
Description | Letter to wife May 1788 describing trip to Cork and Dublin to sell combs |
Narrative
See also Thesis p159
Author: Hankins, Kenneth Miles Wardle
Title: 'The contention of power' : the role of the Jesuits in the Catholic life of Bristol, 1700-
1830.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=24&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiU_Zmm-NjnAhVYRxUIHSohCDE4FBAWMAN6BAgCEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearch-information.bristol.ac.uk%2Ffiles%2F34485968%2F246279.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0eNRNCNftPvUoAGSm8U0kC
As an example of the effect this protracted dispute had on the lives of
individual Catholics we may consider the case of John Winter, a comb-maker of
Castle Street, who had contributed to the new chapel and had subscribed to letters of
protest to Bishop Walmesley about Plowden's ministry. Winter, a convert and a
married man with eight children, alleged he was debarred the practice of the Catholic
religion `through the abusive and insulting behaviour of Robert Plowden'. After he
and his wife had signed one of the petitions to Bishop Walmesley, his wife had
wished to make her confession ('go to her duty') the following Easter, and suspecting
Plowden's feelings towards her had written him a submissive letter requesting him to
hear her confession. In his reply Plowden asked what law obliged him to sit down
and hear the confession of those who were `teeming with vengeance' against him. 43
Winter himself then wrote to Plowden enquiring if he also was included in the
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number of those forbidden the sacrament for signing a petition which Mr Fargus, the
warden, had sent to the bishop. Plowden replied (according to Winter's wife) that
he would not administer the sacrament to him if he was on his dying bed - until he
had first paid him eight hundred pounds, Plowden's argument being that, since the
congregation were unable to use the new chapel because the wardens refused to allow
its completion, the money thus far spent on it (over £700) should be refunded. "
The day before the chapel opened Winter asked Plowden to let him have seven
places at the same price he understood others were paying for their seats. But, he
asserted, Plowden would not let him have a place for less than four shillings and
sixpence a quarter for each sitting, which meant, he claimed, that he would be paying
almost twice as much as others for the same number of places. He then heard from
another source that Plowden was prepared to lower his prices if he would agree to
have his name marked `poor' on his books. His catalogue of complaints not ended,
Winter recalled how one day the priest called at his house to tell him that if any
members of his family sat on any of the seats in the chapel, whether by invitation of
the owner or even if the seat was unoccupied, he would publicly expose them. Thus
forbidden a place to sit unless he complied with Plowden's exorbitant demands (so
he informed the bishop), and having no other place to go nearer than Bath, which
must be attended with more expense than he could afford, he had resolved to spend
the sabbath at home and rest his `prospects of eternity on an allowing God'. 47
Narrative
See also Report of Charities
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jgAMAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=john%20winter&f=false
John Winter, of the city of Bristol, comb-maker, holds a house in Tower-lane, by lease dated 26th August, 1807, for 99 years; if John Winter, Jun., aged 37 years ; Richard Winter, aged 20 years, both sons of the lessee ; and Henry Winter, aged 13 years, son of said John Winter,jun.,
shall so long live; chief rent per annum ......................1 11 6
Assume refers in 1807 to John Winter (1751-1818); so John Winter Jun is John B Winter (1772-1830. ie roughly 37 yrs old in 1807), Richard Paul (1787-1803, so 20 in 1807), and Henry Stephen Winter (~1800-1850, so not sure about dates)